A Union in the RCMP – A Former DSRR’s Observations

A Union in the RCMP – A Former DSRR’s Observations


By Les Allen
I was a DSRR for 13 years and a Sub-Rep prior to that. At the time I believed in that system very much and I believe it worked, to a certain point. I believed in working with management to get a whole solution. I took my work with me, even on holidays, always ensuring that people knew they were not alone in regards to their issue and had a chance to be represented fairly. I always hoped this would allow them to be heard and know that someone cared. We accomplished a lot, but we were not perfect. I am not a lawyer nor even a good writer but in the back rooms I represented my members to the very best of my ability. Even then, some believed I could have done better, but it was difficult to please everyone.

However, I do believe there is a need for a stronger body to represent the Membership. As humans, we tend to want what we do not have and much of the time, we believe that someone else’s representative system is better. There were times when members made mistakes, however, managers did as well. This was always an issue – “Why do they get away with that and I have to accept that discipline?” The biggest stumbling block that seemed to be in the way a lot of the time was getting a manager to look at issues fairly and not hold a grudge against the member. Some managers did just this, but the ones that did not caused us many problems. Some managers wanted to be seen as tough and not allowing any nonsense to go on. They believed it would help them in promotion, etc. At the same time, getting a member to accept responsibility for what took place, accept the consequences and move on without bitterness against the unit, the manager or the Force. This was almost impossible at times. Nor was it easy to teach this to a member. The member has to have a piece of ownership – “It is OUR Force” not his/hers.

The way I believe that this can come closer is by having a strong representative system taking these things into account. A union could be just too strong of a body but there is a lot that they would do to help the members. Pay and equality is important in this day and age, especially in the Vancouver  area with more that 3000 members living in a place where their neighbours in nearby police forces have significant differences in both pay and benefits. There are many other areas with special issues Toronto, The North, etc .This is not a small town, where you can live and buy a home for under 100,000 dollars. I do understand that our Force is different in many ways all across the country. That in itself creates a problem – regional benefits have to be inclusive and updated regularly. On the other hand, the union may focus on things that are not specific to the member which, I believe, is important and would help stop the ‘us’ and ‘them’ approach.

I believe an Association Advocate system would be good as well. They would need, just as a union would, legislation and a total structure (ie legal advice and representation and separate financing) that would allow them to work within the Force independently without fear or advantage of management. They would need legislation that would allow regional structures to take into account the needs of the members and the Force. However, one has to have a strong understanding as to what is good for the Force. There needs to be separation in these two bodies but, not unlike business, one will not survive without the “success” of the other. I believe this is the best rule to have – “no real success without the other”.  Picking the advocates is another issue that needs to be considered and this is a big one. The visible way they are seen and interact will speak to their success. Independent funding for them and a system for resolution of disputes would be a necessity. The resolution has to be a win/win – not specifically for a member or a manager. People have to be able to move on, not just be transferred back to GD and forgotten about. The discipline has to be a buy-in for what the member has done.  GD should be looked at as something that is our heritage, something to be proud of.

I am very pleased with this decision as it will/should let the membership have a singular representation system, hopefully free of all the attempts at future judicial decisions. It was frequently said that the DSRR system spent so much time fighting amongst themselves, that they spent less time on member issues, which made management happy. Members, I believe, want to work as I did for that great organization, the Force. Again, when we had the DSRR system, we had internal political strife that caused dissent, unproductiveness and much time fighting each other. This was a loss for the system, the Force and the membership. Whatever is reborn (even though there is no perfect system), we cannot allow this type of poison to enter into the body and hence not do the job for either the member or the Force.

One has to see what is offered with the rules and regulations around such a system, to advance such a discussion.  Small bodies within cannot be allowed to distort the new system and take time away from the members and the Force.



  1. Christian Thibaudeau says:

    As a retired member and having been in NCO’s position upon retirement. To apply a Union process throughout is a tough call to make. I did my entire service in small detachments except a very short sting in “C” Division at defunct Delson Detachment. Union is great for the RCMP in big units and in federal units, where in many cases, efficiency is not (or was not in my time) really a matter of high importance. (Yes I said that!). On the other hand, based on my experience for having the opportunity to work in an union environment in Police world in a large populated area and policing in small detachments areas for the RCMP where flexibility and “personal calling” are key to success for service delivery and efficiency, it will require high flexibility and great commitment on both sides for the Organization and their members to succeed this challenging transition.

  2. Larry Busch says:

    I have difficulty with this article being published without the author being identified. An opinion is worthless without some level of qualification. There is none here.
    If an author does not wish to have their name associated to their work, the RCMP should not publish it. To do so is like a DSRR accepting an anonymous complaint as factual and valid.

    • Rod Keeping says:

      Hi Larry, I didn’t write the article, but I could have. The author give a good account of what it was like to work as a Division Rep. I wish the NPA all the best, they have a huge job ahead of them. I would hope that members will be patient (but I doubt they will) the Force is a big ship and it takes time to effect changes.
      Rod Keeping
      Former SRR in D Div and NHQ

  3. Ernie MacAulay says:

    I agree with Larry on the issue of anonymity of the author. The item is a very thoughtful discussion of the issue and the author has nothing to be ashamed of.

  4. Jim HIslop says:

    We will have to wait and see whether Union representation is effective in the RCMP. I was always appreciative of, and believed in the DSRR program, and it certainly had some capable and dedicated members as representatives. Reference the comments by the DSRR rep… I too wondered why his/her name was not provided at the end of the article.

  5. Jean Martin says:

    The fact that the author is not identified leaves me to question why this is so. Are we still living in an era where it is best not to let ones opinion known just in case some people in power may be offended ? It just goes to show one more reason why this union is a very good thing for the members.

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